Craftsman Color Max Continuous Control Arc Welder 113 2012x

I believe thats a rebranded AC transformer stick machine made by Century for Sears from the parts pict I pulled up. $40 is a very good price in almost any condition. Used AC machines around me usually run $50-150, with units like that often being around $100 or so. There's not a whole lot that can go wrong with one of those machines, and if something does break, it's usually a very simple fix like a coroded switch etc. Wouldn't at all surprise me if your grand kids could still be using that machine years from now.

180 amps of AC is fine for most medium stick projects. You might have issues getting the machine to go down low enough to do thin sheetmetal work with 1/16" rods, but thats not a big deal. ( thin steel and stick is a PITA anyways.) If you are looking for an inexpensive starter stick machine, you really can't go wrong with one of those.

You can bet it will weld better than 120 volt mig welders on projects that require anything thicker than sheet metal.

Quote Originally Posted by DerekBoyd View Post

Is it worth 40.00 now?

If it includes the leads, you're already money ahead. Welding cable is pretty pricey. Throw in a working welder and you will more than get your money's worth for 40 clams.

Good luck,

Papa

as the others have said. heck if it works and has leads, your welding and making more smoke than you could get out of a carton of cigarettes for the same price.

$40 bucks but no leads... I'd pass on that!
Heck you pick up a brand name Lincoln AC-225-s used for about $100 - $140 easy with leads.
Buying a no-name with no leads is not a deal; it'll cost you at least $40 for 25 ft of #4 gauge welding cable, then another $40 minimum to put a decent ground clamp and electrode holder on it.
Total =$40 + $40 + $40 = $120
For that kind of bucks, there are way better deals- IMO.

If it works, I guarantee that if you buy this welder, someone will tell you should not have spent your money. I also guarantee that if you dont buy this welder; someone will tell you that you let the deal of the year pass you buy.

We pay our money and take our chances. Good Luck.

Quote Originally Posted by pistolnoon View Post

Been to a few auction sales this fall you cannot touch any ac/dc welder under $175.00- absolutely worth $40.00.

Where did you read it's an AC/DC machine?
If so, yeah then that's a deal BUT I didn't read anything saying it was a DC capable machine, in fact DSW said several times it was AC only... and only 180 amp of AC.

Only info I easily found on that model number.

http://www.searspartsdirect.com/part...dMod=113202460

I still think it's worth $40. I doubt for that machine you'd need a stinger and clamp worth $40. A quick look at HF shows a plain steel spring ground clamp similar to what was originally on that machine for about $8. Stinger would set you back about $10 from what I see. I bet I could find nicer ones at about the same price if I hunted a bit more. Cable you are probably close on the lower end if you hunt some. used you might save a few bucks if you looked hard enough.

Still even if it's $100-120 when all is said and done, it's a lot better than $250 or so for a new Lincoln Ac machine for someone just starting out on a buget, It's a lot more machine than a small Harbor freight 110v stick machines in thae same price range. A lot also depends on your area. I've seen people asking crazy kinds on money posted up here on CL adds well above retail for AC machines.

If he gets 2-4 years of use out of it and keeps it in nice shape, selling it for $75-120 wouldn't be unreasonable. At that price he'd get back almost 100% of his investment at best, and only have spent maybe $25-50 overall at worst for the use of the machine over those couple of years. Not a bad investment. A lot better than buying a new AC 225 and selling it for maybe $50 more and loosing $100-150 over the original price.

the lack of leads also gives him some room to bargain, though at that price admitedly not a lot. If the person doesn't know much about welders, chances are the leads may even be there, or you can haggle them down a few bucks simply using the reasoning you have to dump more cash into the unit to get it functional and can't test it as is. If the seller is simply trying to unload grandpas old junk, they'd probably take $20 for it just to get it out of the shop.

Quote Originally Posted by DerekBoyd View Post

I got the welder and took the cover off every thing looks ok. I'm going to disconnect the connections and clean them all. Some mild oxidation on the electrical connections. Haven't been able to test it yet, but I could tell the cover has not been off in a long time. Dosn't seem like much could go wrong with the thing. Having trouble finding the right lead connectors to attach the leads. May have to adapt another type of connector. I have a 15 foot set of jumper cables made out of 1 guage welding leads. I'll turn those back into welding leads. If any one is intrested, I'll keep you all posted and put up some pictures some time this week when I get back from the lake.

Please do. we like pictures, especially of old welders.

Good luck!

Quote Originally Posted by DerekBoyd View Post

... Having trouble finding the right lead connectors to attach the leads. May have to adapt another type of connector.

Derek, here's my thread on the connectors you are likely seeking: http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=59737

Best O Luck!

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